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Article Review – Hand Protection for Electrical Shock and Arc Flash Hazards

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Hand Protection for Electrical Shock and Arc Flash Hazards

Written by Hugh Hoagland and Zarheer Jooma, BSEE, M.S. on October 1, 2024. Posted in Worksite Safety.

Read the full article:
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Ensuring proper hand protection against electrical shock and arc flash hazards is vital for worker safety. This podcast explores advancements in protective gloves, safe work practices, testing methods, and international standards.

Key Takeaways:

  • Evolution of Hand Protection: From basic gloves to advanced multihazard protective gear.
  • Standards and Testing: Overview of ASTM D120-22 specifications.
  • Safe Work Practices: Integrating proper glove use into safety protocols.
  • International Standards Updates: Recent developments in global standards.

FAQs:

1. What are the main types of hand protection used for electrical work?

Rubber Insulating Gloves: Protect against electrical shock, classified by voltage rating.

Protector Gloves: Provide mechanical and thermal protection, now available in advanced materials.

2. Why are protector gloves worn over rubber insulating gloves?

  • Mechanical Protection: Prevents punctures and cuts.
  • Thermal Protection: Shields against heat and flames.
  • Grip Enhancement: Improves handling in challenging conditions.

3. What are the key considerations for selecting hand protection for electrical work?

  • Shock Hazard: Use gloves rated for appropriate voltage.
  • Arc Flash Hazard: Select gloves with sufficient arc ratings.
  • Mechanical Hazards: Consider cut and abrasion resistance.
  • Environmental Conditions: Assess factors like temperature and chemicals.
  • Dexterity Requirements: Choose gloves that allow safe, efficient task performance.

4. How often should rubber insulating gloves be tested?

OSHA mandates electrical testing every six months per ASTM D120, with daily visual inspections before use.

5. What are the recent advancements in hand protection for electrical work?

  • New Materials: Improved dexterity, grip, and cut resistance.
  • Multi-Hazard Protection: Gloves that combine insulation with other safety features.
  • Enhanced Comfort and Fit: Innovations for better usability and compliance.

6. What are the challenges of hand protection in clean room environments?

Non-leather gloves, such as those conforming to ASTM F3258, address contamination concerns while maintaining protection.

7. How do international standards compare to US standards for hand protection?

IEC 60903 lacks thickness requirements but aligns more closely with US practices through updates like IEC 63232.

8. What should workers do when exposed to both shock and arc flash hazards?

Combine rubber insulating gloves with arc-rated protector gloves to meet OSHA and ASTM standards for dual protection.

#ElectricalSafety #ArcFlashProtection #HandProtection #WorkerSafety #PPE #SafetyStandards

Utility Safety Podcast – Deep Dive into iP’s Q&A Oct/Nov Issue written by Jim Vaughn, CUSP

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Utility Safety Podcast – Deep Dive into iP’s Q&A Oct/Nov Issue written by Jim Vaughn, CUSP

Read the article: https://incident-prevention.com/blog/october-november-2024-qa/

This conversation delves into Jim Vaughn’s article for iP Magazine.

The “October-November 2024 Q&A” article on Incident Prevention addresses critical safety concerns in the utility industry, focusing on the management of SF6 gas switches, OSHA regulations regarding hot-line clamps, and the handling of insulated elbows in pad-mounted transformers. The article provides practical guidance for utility professionals to enhance safety protocols and ensure compliance with industry standards.

Key Takeaways:

  • SF6 Gas Switches: Due to environmental concerns, SF6 gas switches are being phased out. Leaking switches must be addressed promptly to avoid regulatory issues. An audit of existing breakers is recommended to develop a replacement program.
  • OSHA Regulations on Hot-Line Clamps: OSHA does not explicitly prohibit the use of hot-line clamps to make or break loads, provided that employees are not exposed to hazards during the operation. Employers should ensure that devices used are designed to handle the current involved and that safety protocols are strictly followed.
  • Handling Insulated Elbows: Insulated elbows in pad-mounted transformers are not considered safe to touch with bare hands, even when wearing rubber gloves. Manufacturers advise against handling energized elbows due to potential safety risks.

#UtilitySafety #SF6GasSwitches #OSHACompliance #ElectricalSafety #IncidentPrevention

You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

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Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

From Operations to Safety: Journey and Insights From Mike Starner, CUSP, Director of Outside Line Safety at NECA

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Welcome to the Utility Safety Podcast, recorded live at the IP Utility Safety Conference! In this episode, host Nick, Creative & Marketing Director for UBM, sits down with Mike Starner, Executive Director of Outside Line Safety at NECA. Mike shares his unique journey from field operations to safety leadership, emphasizing the crucial intersection of safety and operations. Discover how evolving safety philosophies, mental health awareness, and frontline leadership can drive meaningful change in the utility industry. Key topics include safety management history, human and organizational performance, and the critical role of human connection in creating a safer work environment.

Key Takeaways:

  • Mike Starner’s path from hands-on operations to becoming a safety advocate
  • How safety management philosophies have evolved over time
  • The impact of human behavior and mental health on workplace safety
  • The importance of frontline leaders actively engaging with their crews
  • Practical steps and resources, like partnering with the 988 crisis helpline, to support worker well-being

#UtilitySafety #SafetyLeadership #MentalHealthAwareness #HumanPerformance #SafetyManagement #ConstructionSafety #UtilityConference #WorkplaceWellness #Leadership #SafetyCulture

You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

Building a Culture of Safety – Insights from IUOTA Board Chair Mark Taylor, CUSP

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In this episode of the Utility Safety Podcast, host Nick sits down with Mark Taylor, CUSP, and board chair of IUOTA. Mark shares his journey from working as an electrician in Calgary to becoming a safety leader in the utility industry. He reflects on the challenges of promoting safety culture in a dynamic workforce and how personal experiences, including the implementation of innovative safety programs, helped his teams achieve impressive results. Mark also discusses his tenure as IUOTA’s chair and the importance of sharing safety knowledge to ensure everyone gets home safe.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Adapting Safety Practices for New Generations: Mark highlights the evolving nature of safety practices and the need to adjust communication styles to cater to younger workers who learn and respond differently.
  2. Cultural Shift in Safety: His team’s success in reducing workplace injuries stemmed from fostering a culture of genuine care and engagement, shifting from a command-control model to a more collaborative one.
  3. Importance of Mentorship and Knowledge Sharing: Mark emphasizes how sharing safety practices across utilities, particularly through IUOTA, has led to the adoption of innovative ideas without duplicating efforts.
  4. Challenges of Safety Leadership: Mark’s personal stories of safety failures and successes offer valuable lessons, particularly the importance of verifying safety conditions and the role of supervisors in knowing and supporting their teams.

Check out the IUOTA Conference – Conference Link

You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

#UtilitySafety #SafetyCulture #IUOTA #WorkplaceSafety #LeadershipInSafety #SafetyFirst

Utility Safety Podcast – Beyond the Checklist – A New Model for Workplace Safety – Bill Martin, CUSP

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Beyond the Checklist – A New Model for Workplace Safety – Bill Martin, CUSP – critiques the current approach to workplace safety, where simply completing required safety activities like meetings and events often leads to minimal change. The text advocates for a new model where knowledge is actively applied, and feedback loops are created to assess the effectiveness of safety tactics. The speaker stresses that true improvement requires engaging the workforce in decision-making, testing new ideas, and fostering follow-through. Management-driven safety initiatives are often disconnected from real-world application, and the workforce must value and test new strategies for sustainable change.

Key Takeaways

  1. Knowledge vs. Application: New safety information is meaningless unless there is a plan to implement it.
  2. The Importance of Synchrony: Teams need to be aligned, much like in nature and sports, to successfully apply safety strategies.
  3. Management-Driven Initiatives: Most safety programs are management-focused, but a worker-centered approach is necessary.
  4. New Safety Models: Instead of “checking the box,” organizations need to involve workers in testing and evaluating safety measures.
  5. Feedback Loops: Continuous feedback from workers can ensure the practical implementation of safety tactics.
  6. Fostering Engagement: A model that incorporates workforce feedback and values is crucial for long-term improvement.

You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

#WorkplaceSafety #SafetyCulture #EmployeeEngagement #SafetyTraining #KnowledgeApplication #NewSafetyModel #WorkforceFeedback #SafetyInnovation #CheckTheBox #ContinuousImprovement


Utility Safety Podcast – ⚡️Time for Change⚡️ with Brent Jeffries, Bill Martin CUSP, Kate Wade

April 16, 2024

In this episode of the Utility Safety Podcast we dive into the idea that now is the Time for Change!

We have with us Editor of iP Magazine, Kate Wade, Brent Jeffries from Bierer Meters & William Martin from Think Tank Project, LLC.

⚡️Time for Change⚡️ The solution to change is time. Allow: Time to consider the plan Time to share concerns Time to discuss options Time to fail safely 

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73 min. with Brent Jeffries, Bill Martin CUSP, Kate Wade


Train The Trainer 101 – What’s Missing in Your Training? by Jim Vaughn, CUSP

April 1, 2024

This podcast dives into a critical issue within the lineman industry: outdated training methods and their consequences. Veteran safety expert Jim Vaughn argues that traditional training methods, which often rely on the experience of veteran lineworkers, can miss crucial safety updates and best practices.

The episode explores how social media trends like “TikTok linemen” showcasing unsafe work practices expose these gaps in training. Vaughn emphasizes the importance of trainers staying current on industry standards and proper procedures to ensure the safety of future generations of lineworkers.

Read the article here – https://incident-prevention.com/blog/whats-missing-in-your-training/

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo to hear Jim Vaughn speak – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/


Utility Safety Podcast – Your Electric Reality – Brent Jeffries, VP of Field Operations/Safety Instructor for Bierer Meters

March 15, 2024

This podcast is about electrical safety and building a strong line crew culture. The guest speaker, Brent Jefferies, discusses his experience training line workers and his efforts to improve safety in the industry. He has observed that there is a lack of teamwork and communication among line crews, which can lead to accidents.

He believes that line crews should be more like sports teams, where everyone has a common goal and works together to achieve it. He also believes that line workers should feel comfortable speaking up if they see something unsafe.

Here are the key points:

  • Brent Jefferies trains line workers on electrical safety and tool usage.
  • He observes that many crews lack teamwork and communication.
  • Jefferies believes line crews should function more like sports teams.
  • Line workers should feel empowered to stop work if they see something unsafe.
  • The ultimate goal is for everyone to work as a linecrew/lineteam.

Reach out to Brent – brent@bierermeters.com
Check out ECOS – https://electriccultureofsafety.com/

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

51 min. with Brent Jeffries


Utility Safety Podcast – Learning about T&D Powerskills – Jerry Havens, COSS

February 19, 2024

We got to sit down with Jerry Havens from T&D Powerskills to discuss their new LMS 2.0 and learn about the history of T&D through current day and how the program has evolved.

You can reach Jerry to find out more at:
Email: jerry@tdpowerskills.com
Cell: 318-880-2259
Website: https://www.tdpowerskills.com/

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

34 min. with Jerry Havens


Utility Safety Podcast – Diving into Everything Outrigger Pads with Eric Steiner from Bigfoot

January 30, 2024

Bigfoot Construction Equipment is a family-owned American manufacturer of outrigger pads, used to stabilize heavy equipment like cranes and concrete pumps. They offer both wood and composite pads, with custom sizes and capacities available. Their products are veteran-made and prioritize safety and strength.

Eric Steiner, the marketing director, discussed the company’s history, product range, and commitment to safety and sustainability. He also highlighted the challenges of raising awareness about the importance of outrigger pads and Bigfoot’s efforts to overcome them through collaboration with industry standards boards and educational initiatives. Overall, the podcast emphasizes the role of Bigfoot in ensuring safe and efficient operation of heavy machinery.

Visit Bigfoot here – https://outriggerpads.com/
Email Eric – erics@outriggerpads.com

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

19 min. with Eric Steiner


iP Magazine – A Dive Behind the Pages with Managing Editor – Kate Wade

December 22, 2023

In today’s special episode we interview the managing editor of Incident Prevention Magazine, Kate Wade. Kate explains about our editorial board and some behind the scene exclusives. We go into a host of topics as we get to spend some time talking about what she sees as future trends in the utility industry and what changes she has seen in the industry over the last 15 years.

Interested in writing an article for iP Magazine?
Email: kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com

Make sure to join us at the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo coming in Orlando, FL
May 21-23, 2024
Register Here: https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

28 min. with Kate Wade


Special Episode: iP Utility Safety Conference – San Diego, CA Nov 7-9, 2023 – Are You Registered?

October 16, 2023

iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – San Diego, CA

Are you registered for this premier utility safety conference? https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

NOVEMBER 7 – 9, 2023
TOWN AND COUNTRY RESORT – SAN DIEGO, CA

JOIN US FOR 3 DAYS OF EDUCATION, NETWORKING & PRODUCT DISCOVERY

The iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo brings together leading safety and operations minds from across the country for three days of education and networking. If you’re a utility safety or operations professional, this is a can’t-miss event. Come together to gain education, insight & knowledge that will help you and your organization achieve new levels of safety success. Register today to get your all-access pass to three jam-packed days of education, networking, product discovery and more!

Your all-access pass includes:

  • Unlimited access to 3 days of keynote presentations, roundtables and educational sessions
  • Bussed transportation to and from an exciting tour of San Diego Gas & Electric’s state-of-the-art training facility
  • Complimentary transportation to and admission into a fun welcome reception including dinner and plenty of networking opportunities
  • Complimentary breakfast at the kickoff keynote session
  • Complimentary lunches all three days of the event
  • Unlimited access to the Expo Hall
  • Complimentary coffee, tea and pastries to start the second and third day of the event


Train the Trainer – Jim Vaughn, CUSP – Training Users on Aerial Lifts

August 14, 2023

Listen to Jim Vaughn, CUSP talk about his article in iP Magazine on Training Users on Aerial Lifts.

Read the article – https://incident-prevention.com/blog/training-users-of-aerial-lifts/

Subscribe to iP Magazine free – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

Reach out to Jim – jim@ispconline.com Jim’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimvaughncusp/

47 min. with Jim Vaughn.


Special Episode – USOLN Board Chair – Jeff Clemons, CUSP

May 23, 2023

In this special episode we talk with the USOLN Board Chair, Jeff Clemons. We discuss a host of topics including how the USOLN was formed, some USOLN member benefits, and about their coveted CUSP Program that is the only utility specific credential in the industry. Jeff is a wealth of knowledge and works for San Diego Gas & Electric!

Visit www.usoln.org to find out more!

24 min. with Jeff Clemons.


Special Episode – iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo Presents SafetyPalooza in Schaumburg, IL May 9-11, 2023

March 22, 2023

Register for the Conference Today – Click to Register

The iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo brings together leading safety and operations minds from across the country for three days of education and networking. If you’re a utility safety or operations professional, this is a can’t-miss event. Come together to gain education, insight & knowledge that will help you and your organization achieve new levels of safety success.

Download the Brochure – Click here

16 min. with Carla Housh and David McPeak, CUSP and Melissa Housh from Utility Business Media


Special Episode – Crash Analysis: A Personal Story – Jim Vaughn, CUSP

February 22, 2023

Jim Vaughn, CUSP tells us a powerful story of beating the odds by following your training. This powerful message Jim shares with the community really puts a focus on why we train, and how it can save lives.

Read Jim’s article in the December 2022/January 2023 issue of Incident Prevention Magazine .

10 min. with Jim Vaughn, CUSP


Special Edition – What’s New In Tools from the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo Glendale, AZ 2022

January 5, 2023

The iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo brings together leading safety and operations minds from across the country for three days of education and networking. If you’re a utility safety or operations professional, this is a can’t-miss event. Come together to gain education, insight & knowledge that will help you and your organization achieve new levels of safety success. www.UtilitySafetyConference.com

JOIN US FOR 3 DAYS OF EDUCATION, NETWORKING & PRODUCT DISCOVERY.
Visit  https://utilitysafetyconference.com/ to learn more.

25 min. with Kurt Moreland, Associate Publisher with Incident Prevention


Special CUSP Edition – Want To Be One? Ask One!

November 16, 2022

Learn from a current board member and active Certified Utility Safety Professional (CUSP) credential holder Rod Courtney, and the current CUSP Program Director Shawn Talbot talk about common questions about the credential and USOLN.

Visit www.usoln.org to learn more about becoming a CUSP.

23 min. with Rod Courtney, CUSP & CUSP Program Director Shawn Talbot, CAE


Special Episode: Discussing the new Utility Leadership Book ”Frontline Incident Prevention — The Hurdle” with Author David McPeak, CUSP

August 29, 2022

In this special episode, we sit down with the Director of Professional Development for the Incident Prevention Institute, David McPeak, to discuss his new second book, called Frontline Incident Prevention — The Hurdle. Listeners will learn all about why the book is such an impactful and insightful read for anybody who is a utility safety leader or aspiring leader!

If you’d like a copy of the book, you can get it today at Frontline Incident Prevention- The Hurdle

Contact David McPeak at david@utilitybusinessmedia.com

29 min. with David McPeak, CUSP


Special Episode: Talking Lineworker Training & Safety with Tim Vassios

December 15, 2021

Incident Prevention went to Indianola, Iowa to check out a brand new training facility that the Missouri Valley Line Constructors just built to help train tomorrow’s lineworkers on how to safely do the work. In this podcast, Tim Vassios tells us all about how the training process works and why safety is such a vital part of it.

20 min. with Tim Vassios


Special USOLN Episode: An Interview with the Very First CUSP All-Star, Denver DeWees from Farmington Electric

July 29, 2021

In this episode, we sat down to chat with Denver to learn more about the process of becoming a CUSP and how it has helped him achieve more in his career as a utility safety professional.

20 min. with Denver DeWees


Tailgate Topics Podcasts


Tailgate Topics – Power Restoration Triage and Delta Systems – William Martin, CUSP, RN, NRP, DIMM

August 25, 2023

In this episode of Tailgate Topics, Rod Courtney, CUSP interviews William Martin, CUSP, RN, NRP, DIMM ON his article in Incident Prevention Magazine titled “Power Restoration Triage and Delta Systems”

Important points in the article cover –

  • The importance of triage in power restoration: Triage is a way of prioritizing outages so that the most critical ones can be restored first. This is important because it helps to minimize the impact of the storm on businesses, homes, and public safety.
  • The different types of triage systems: There are a number of different triage systems that can be used for power restoration. The best system for a particular situation will depend on the factors involved, such as the size and complexity of the outage, the availability of resources, and the severity of the weather conditions.
  • The unique challenges of triaging delta systems: Delta systems are more common in rural areas and small communities. They pose unique challenges for triaging because they can create low-voltage conditions that can damage customer equipment.
  • The insights of experts in the field: We’ll hear from experts in the field of power restoration to get their insights on how to do triage effectively. This will include tips on how to prioritize outages, how to choose the right triage system, and how to deal with the unique challenges of delta systems.

About the Author: Bill Martin, CUSP, NRP, RN, DIMM, is the president and CEO of Think Tank Project LLC (www.thinkprojectllc.com). He has held previous roles as a lineman, line supervisor and safety director.

Read the article – https://incident-prevention.com/blog/power-restoration-triage-and-delta-systems/

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo to hear Bill & Rod Courtney speak – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/


Tailgate Topics – Discuss Drug & Alcohol Awareness on the Job Site – Jesse Hardy, CSP, CIT, CUSP, PCC

June 13, 2023

In this episode Rod covers with Jesse a host of job site issues that relate to drugs and alcohol. This is a very great subject to review with your team and pay attention to on the job site.

You see, this isn’t a “they have a problem” sort of problem – it’s a “we have a problem” sort of problem. It’s the kind of problem that we need to talk about for the sake of you and your family, your company, our industry and our nation.

To share feedback about this podcast, reach out to Jesse Hardy at jessehardy@yahoo.com or our Host Rod Courtney at rod.courtney.usoln@gmail.com

View Jesse Hardy’s article here.

39 min. with Jesse Hardy, CSP, CIT, CUSP


Tailgate Topics -Strategies to Handle Workplace Conflict –  Jesse Hardy, CSP, CIT, CUSP

February 7, 2023

Listen to our 2nd installment into our new series “Tailgate Topics hosted by Rod Courtney, CUSP” titled “Strategies to Handle Workplace Conflict” Written by Jesse Hardy, CSP, CIT, CUSP.

“Jack, the people issues are just getting to be too much,” the foreman said. “If it’s not the landowners and members of the public throwing fits and coming into the work zones, it’s our own people getting into conflicts. At best it’s a distraction that steals our focus, and at it’s worst it becomes violent.”

The superintendent replied to the foreman, “I hear you, Billy. Let’s come up with a plan on how to deal with this.”

Three Important Questions

In this month’s Tailgate, we’re going to review answers to three important questions related to workplace conflict and violence, and then we’ll look at how to deal with three areas of conflict in ways that lead to the best possible outcome based on the situation.

View Jesse Hardy’s article here.

33 min. with Jesse Hardy, CSP, CIT, CUSP


Tailgate Topics -Avoid Injuries While Lifting and Moving by Jesse Hardy

October 4, 2022

This new series hosted by Rod Courtney, CUSP will dive deeper into each article from our Incident Prevention Magazine’s section called “Tailgate Topics”. In this episode Rod interviews Jesse Hardy on avoiding injuries while lifting and moving in his Tailgate Topics article in the Aug/Sep issue of Incident Prevention Magazine.

View Jesse Hardy’s article here

17 min. with Jesse Hardy, CUSP


Safety By Design Podcasts


Safety by Design: Transforming Utility Safety with Pam Tompkins, CUSP

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In this episode of the Safety by Design podcast, Pam Tompkins, CUSP, shares her extensive 40-year journey in the utility safety industry. Pam dives into the critical importance of intentional safety planning and proactive assessments, emphasizing the need for quality over quantity in safety initiatives. With insights drawn from her global consulting experience, Pam provides actionable strategies to design systems that protect both employees and organizations. She also previews her upcoming article series in Incident Prevention Magazine, which will provide a deep dive into transforming safety practices for utility professionals.

Key Takeaways

  1. Proactive Assessments are Vital: Most safety assessments are reactive, conducted after incidents occur. Pam stresses the need for proactive assessments to prevent significant injuries or fatalities.
  2. Quality Over Quantity: Simply adding more safety initiatives doesn’t translate to better safety outcomes. Organizations must ensure their programs are effective and aligned.
  3. Importance of Standards: Leveraging ANSI and ISO standards can guide organizations in creating robust safety systems.
  4. Systemic Alignment Matters: Safety programs should align at all organizational levels to ensure effectiveness and consistency.
  5. Baseline and Metrics: Establishing a baseline and measurable goals for every safety initiative is essential for tracking success.

#SafetyByDesign #UtilitySafety #ProactiveSafety #CUSPLeadership #IncidentPrevention #WorkplaceSafety

You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com


Voice of Experience Podcasts


Voice of Experience – Surviving the Storm: Lessons from the Field with Danny Raines, CUSP

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In this episode of The Voice of Experience, Danny Raines, CUSP, shares his invaluable insights from decades of storm work as a lineman and utility safety expert. From the devastation of Hurricane Katrina to modern-day storm recovery challenges, Danny takes us through the physical and mental toll of responding to natural disasters. He explains the dangers of backfeeds, the rise of alternative energy sources, and the importance of verifying safety before restoring power. Learn from his firsthand stories, safety lessons, and how the landscape of utility work has evolved over the years. Whether you’re in the utility industry or just curious about storm response, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge from one of the most respected professionals in the field.

Key Takeaways:

  1. The dangers of storm work: Power restoration involves more than meets the eye, especially with evolving technology like solar panels and generators creating backfeed hazards.
  2. Mental and physical challenges: Long hours, dangerous conditions, and the emotional impact of storm recovery can lead to severe fatigue and stress.
  3. Importance of testing and verifying: Danny stresses the importance of safety procedures, especially when dealing with energized systems after a storm.
  4. Stories from the field: Real-life experiences from Hurricane Katrina and other storms demonstrate the unpredictable nature of storm recovery.
  5. Utility evolution: Changes in technology, regulations, and community expectations are reshaping the utility industry’s response to natural disasters.

You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience. To listen to more episodes of this podcast, as well as other podcasts we produce, visit https://incident-prevention.com/podcasts. You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com

Purchase Danny’s Book on Amazon – https://a.co/d/556LDvz

#UtilitySafety #StormWork #HurricaneKatrina #LinemanLife #BackfeedDangers #MentalHealthMatters #TestAndVerify #PowerRestoration #StormRecovery #AlternativeEnergy #UtilityIndustry #SafetyFirst #DannyRaines #CUSP #ElectricGrid #DisasterResponse


Voice of Experience – Danny Raines, CUSP – Lineman – Lineworker Development

June 3, 2024

Listen to this important episode of this Voice of Experience with Danny Raines!

The speaker, a retired lineman with over 55 years of experience, discusses the importance of proper training and development for lineman. He argues that simply obtaining a journeyman license doesn’t guarantee competency and that true learning happens on the job.

The speaker outlines the different stages of lineman development, starting with basic line skills like climbing poles and tying knots. He emphasizes the importance of safety rules and procedures, and of always testing and verifying everything before starting work.

The speaker also discusses the challenges of troubleshooting electrical problems and the importance of critical thinking and problem-solving skills. He concludes by sharing a personal story about his own journeyman lineman training.

Here are some key takeaways from the description:

  • Lineman development is a continuous process that goes beyond obtaining a journeyman license.
  • On-the-job training is crucial for developing the necessary skills and knowledge.
  • Safety rules and procedures must be strictly followed.
  • Critical thinking and problem-solving skills are essential for troubleshooting electrical problems.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience.

To listen to more episodes of this podcast, as well as other podcasts we produce, visit https://incident-prevention.com/podcasts.

You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com.

34 mins. with Danny Raines


Voice of Experience – Danny Raines, CUSP – Ruling Spans and Proper Conductor Sag

May 1, 2024

Listen to this important episode of this Voice of Experience with Danny Raines! Cold weather highlights the importance of proper conductor sag. Improper sag can lead to outages, but using the right calculations keeps the system safe.

Read the article – https://incident-prevention.com/blog/ruling-spans-and-proper-conductor-sag/ 

Early days: We used to tighten conductors for looks, unaware of factors like “ruling spans.” This worked in mild climates, but led to failures in harsh winters.

The Science: Conductor size, span length, and installation temperature all affect final sag and tension.

Getting it Right: We all want a neat system, but too much slack can cause problems too. Elevation changes and long pulls require extra considerations.

A Case Study: Improper uphill sagging during a long pull forced us to re-sag to achieve proper tension.

The Takeaway: Today, detailed specifications and online resources guide proper sagging. Initial sag should be close, with final adjustments and dynamometer checks following.

Do it Right, Once: True professionals take the time to ensure quality work that lasts. A circuit I worked on 30 years ago still has proper sag – a testament to getting it right the first time.

Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience.

To listen to more episodes of this podcast, as well as other podcasts we produce, visit https://incident-prevention.com/podcasts.

You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com or 770-354-7360.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience. 

Read More of Danny’s Articles here

You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com.

29 mins. with Danny Raines


Voice of Experience – Danny Raines, CUSP – Determining Reasonable Energy Estimates

February 15, 2024

Listen to Danny Raines, CUSP discuss his newest article in iP Magazine about Determining Reasonable Energy Estimates.

Read the article here – https://incident-prevention.com/blog/determining-reasonable-energy-estimates/

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience. 

Read More of Danny’s Articles here

You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com.

29 mins. with Danny Raines


Voice of Experience – Danny Raines, CUSP – Ferroresonance

November 2, 2023

Listen to Danny Raines, CUSP discuss his newest article in iP Magazine about Ferroresonance

Read the article here – https://incident-prevention.com/blog/understanding-and-preventing-ferroresonance/

You can also read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience. 

Read More of Danny’s Articles here

You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com.

15 mins. with Danny Raines


Voice of Experience – Danny Raines – Equipotential or Total Isolation

September 27, 2023

Listen to Danny Raines, CUSP discuss his newest article in iP Magazine about Equipotential or Total Isolation.

Read the article here – https://incident-prevention.com/blog/equipotential-or-total-isolation/

You can also read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience. 

Read Danny’s Articles here

You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com.

22 mins. with Danny Raines


Voice of Experience – Danny Raines, CUSP – Understanding Task Specific Training

September 13, 2023

Listen to Danny Raines, CUSP discuss his newest article in iP Magazine about Understanding Task Specific Training.

Read the Article – iP Digital Magazine

You can also read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience. 

Read Danny’s Articles here

You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com.

20 mins. with Danny Raines


Voice of Experience: Danny Raines, CUSP – Lineworkers & Rubber Sleeves – Another Look

July 24, 2023

Listen to Danny Raines, CUSP discuss his newest article in iP Magazine about Lineworkers & Rubber Sleeves – Another Look.

Rubber sleeves are an important safety tool for lineworkers who work with energized electrical equipment. They provide additional insulation and protection from electrical shock, and can help to prevent serious injuries or death.

In the past, some lineworkers did not wear rubber sleeves, but this practice has become increasingly rare in recent years. The OSHA Strategic Partnership Program, which was developed in 2005-2006, encourages the use of rubber sleeves by lineworkers. The program has been successful in reducing the number of electrical incidents and fatalities, and most lineworkers now wear rubber sleeves when working with energized equipment.

OSHA regulations require that lineworkers wear rubber insulating gloves and sleeves when working with energized parts. However, there are some exceptions to this rule. For example, an employee may not need to wear rubber sleeves if the exposed energized parts on which the employee is not working are insulated from the employee.

It is important for lineworkers to be aware of the risks associated with working with energized electrical equipment. Rubber sleeves are an important safety tool that can help to prevent serious injuries or death.

Here are some additional benefits of wearing rubber sleeves:

    • They can help to protect the lineworker’s arms from burns and other injuries caused by arc flash.
    • They can help to prevent the lineworker from being electrocuted if they come into contact with an energized conductor.
    • They can help to reduce the risk of developing electrical shock-related health problems, such as heart arrhythmias and nerve damage.

    If you are a lineworker or work in a related field, it is important to wear rubber sleeves when working with energized electrical equipment. Rubber sleeves can help to protect you from serious injuries or death.

    The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience. 

    Read Danny’s Articles here

    You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com.

    24 mins. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience: Danny Raines, CUSP – Lineworkers & Rubber Sleeves

    June 19, 2023

    Listen to Danny Raines, CUSP discuss his newest article in iP Magazine about Lineworkers & Rubber Sleeves.

    Rubber sleeves are an important safety tool for lineworkers who work with energized electrical equipment. They provide additional insulation and protection from electrical shock, and can help to prevent serious injuries or death.

    In the past, some lineworkers did not wear rubber sleeves, but this practice has become increasingly rare in recent years. The OSHA Strategic Partnership Program, which was developed in 2005-2006, encourages the use of rubber sleeves by lineworkers. The program has been successful in reducing the number of electrical incidents and fatalities, and most lineworkers now wear rubber sleeves when working with energized equipment.

    OSHA regulations require that lineworkers wear rubber insulating gloves and sleeves when working with energized parts. However, there are some exceptions to this rule. For example, an employee may not need to wear rubber sleeves if the exposed energized parts on which the employee is not working are insulated from the employee.

    It is important for lineworkers to be aware of the risks associated with working with energized electrical equipment. Rubber sleeves are an important safety tool that can help to prevent serious injuries or death.

    Here are some additional benefits of wearing rubber sleeves:

    • They can help to protect the lineworker’s arms from burns and other injuries caused by arc flash.
    • They can help to prevent the lineworker from being electrocuted if they come into contact with an energized conductor.
    • They can help to reduce the risk of developing electrical shock-related health problems, such as heart arrhythmias and nerve damage.

    If you are a lineworker or work in a related field, it is important to wear rubber sleeves when working with energized electrical equipment. Rubber sleeves can help to protect you from serious injuries or death.

    The Voice of Experience with Danny Raines podcast is produced by the same team that publishes Incident Prevention. It delivers insights based on Danny’s regular column in the magazine, also called the Voice of Experience. 

    Read Danny’s Articles here

    You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com.

    24 mins. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience: Danny Raines, CUSP – Arc Flash Precautions: A Review

    March 9, 2023

    Listen to Danny has he walks us through a review on a very important topic: Arc Flash Precautions.

    Read Danny’s Article here

    You can reach Danny at rainesafety@gmail.com.

    30 mins. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience: Danny Raines, CUSP – Danny Raines, CUSP – Stories from Legends of an Ole’ Lineman

    January 13, 2023

    This book is a collection of stories from lessons learned and mistakes made as I progressed my career at Georgia Power. Applied for and award a position as “Helper on line Crew immediately after graduating High School and retired after 40 years as Safety Consultant for Distribution and Transmission. for GPC. After Lineman, I was awarded Crew Supervisor, Safety and Training, and finally a Safety Consultant’s position for the company. After retiring from GPC, I founded Raines Utility Safety Solutions and am currently the owner and Principal Consultant. I began his career in the electrical utility industry in June 1967 in Macon, Georgia with Georgia Power Company. Served a short time in the U. S. Army in 1968-69 and is a Viet Nam Era disabled veteran. Returning to Georgia Power worked as a lineman until till1985. Worked as contract coordinator over utility crews and line clearing forestry. In late 1996, Danny entered Safety and Health, promoted to Supervisor, Project Manager, and Corporate Safety Consultant for Distribution and Transmission organizations. Danny retired from Georgia Power on December 1st, 2007, as the Safety Consultant for Distribution and Transmission organizations and founded Raines Utility Safety Solutions, LLC. Danny is currently an Affiliate Instructor at Georgia Tech Research Institute in Atlanta, Ga., an electric utility Subject Matter Expert and Consultant in civil cases, supporting electrical Contractors, Co-Ops, and Municipal utility companies across the US.

    You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

    27 mins. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience: Danny Raines, CUSP – Ground Gradient Step Potential and PPE

    December 14, 2022

    In this episode, Danny Raines, CUSP talks on why, for various reasons, ground gradient step potential hazards are not always considered or thought to be important. I recently received a call from a large investor-owned utility whose employees had differing opinions about using super dielectric overshoes or work boots when setting a pole in an energized line. Some people are of the opinion that if you cover up the lines with a nominal voltage-rated cover, there is no danger of an energized pole and therefore no chance of ground gradient step potential. I believe the manufacturer’s usage suggestion for any cover is for incidental brush contact by a qualified worker, not a boom truck or pole. There is nothing in ASTM D1050, “Standard Specification for Rubber Insulating Line Hose,” stating that hoses can be used for any means or measures other than a qualified electrical worker’s personal protection from energized conductors. Pole shields are another product believed by many to protect workers on the ground who make indirect contact with energized parts. But unless the company is an electric cooperative and lives by the required Rural Electric Safety Achievement Program, which is part of the annual compliance audit by the company that insures most electric cooperatives, the dielectric testing of Salcor line hoses does not happen. Everything, including pole shields, is rated safety equipment.

    28 mins. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience: Lineman’s Stories from Danny Raines, CUSP in Upcoming Book

    August 22, 2022

    In this episode, Danny Raines, CUSP clears up his semi-retirement while giving you 2 stories from his new upcoming book labeled “A Lineman’s Story” by Danny Raines (Coming Soon!) . Always a popular educator, Danny is in the process of writing a book about his experience of becoming a lineman and ultimately enjoying his chosen career for over 40 years. Here at Incident Prevention, we are all looking forward to reading what Danny has to say once his book becomes available. 

    25 min. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience: Installing Fiber Optic Cable in Electrical Supply Spaces

    January 25, 2022

    In this episode, Danny offers listeners additional commentary on “Installing Fiber Optic Cable in Electrical Supply Spaces,” which he wrote about in the December 2021-January 2022 issue of Incident Prevention magazine. You can read the article at https://bit.ly/fiberopticinelectrical.

    20 min. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience with Danny Raines: System Grounding for Worker Protection Against Induced Voltages

    September 23, 2021

    In this episode, Danny offers listeners additional commentary on “System Grounding for Worker Protection Against Induced Voltages,” which he wrote about in the June-July 2021 issue of Incident Prevention magazine. You can read the article at https://bit.ly/systemgrounding.

    20 min. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience with Danny Raines: Overhead Line Work, Then and Now

    June 2, 2021

    In this episode, Danny offers listeners additional commentary on “Overhead Line Work, Then and Now,” which he wrote about in the June-July 2021 issue of Incident Prevention magazine. You can read the article at https://incident-prevention.com/ip-articles/overhead-line-work-then-and-now.

    20 min. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience with Danny Raines: Who is in Charge of System Operations?

    April 19, 2021

    In this episode, Danny provides additional views and perspectives from his April-May 2021 column called “System Operations: Who’s In Charge?” You can read this article by going to incident-prevention.com. Let’s join Danny to learn why it’s important to slow down, or even stop work, when something doesn’t seem right about the job.

    20 min. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience with Danny Raines: My Male Breast Cancer Survivor Story

    March 5, 2021

    American entrepreneur Jim Rohn once said, “Take care of your body; it’s the only place you have to live.” In this episode, we talk about a different type of safety than we usually do—and that safety revolves around personal health and the dangers of a less-talked-about cancer: male breast cancer.

    20 min. with Danny Raines


    Utility Safety Voice of Experience with Danny Raines: Understanding Lone Worker Limitations

    January 26, 2021

    Welcome to an all-new podcast based on Incident Prevention magazine’s popular column called the Voice of Experience, written by Danny Raines, CUSP. Danny worked for Georgia Power for 40 years and has been consulting and educating utilities and utility contractors ever since. He’s been one of the most popular speakers at the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo our annual conferences and at iP Institute’s online webinar education events.

    We’re excited to bring Danny’s extensive knowledge and experience to our podcast by launching this Voice of Experience channel. We hope you will join us as Danny provides utility safety and operations professionals like you with impactful insights and observations.

    In this episode, Danny talks in greater detail about lone worker limitations, a subject he covered in his column for the December 2020-January 2021 issue of Incident Prevention magazine.This podcast is published by the team at Incident Prevention magazine. Learn more at incident-prevention.com/podcasts.


    Utility Safety Solutions Podcasts



    Utility Safety Solutions: 2022 FR Update Live From the Expo floor at the Utility Safety Conference & Expo

    June 6, 2022

    Kurt reports in from the expo floor of the Utility Safety Conference & Expo to provide you with a comprehensive look at what’s new in the FR industry!

    20 min. with several FR clothing exhibitors


    Utility Safety Solutions: Learn How Intellishift’s Telematics and AI Camera Solutions are Improving Utility Fleet Safety

    April 19, 2022

    Kurt reports in from the NAFA conference where he met up with Intellishift’s Jordan Kittle to talk all about how the company is making innovative technology solutions that improve utility fleet safety as well as a conversation about a celebrity encounter with LeBron James.

    20 min. with Intellishift’s Jordan Kittle


    Utility Safety Solutions: Talking Traffic Safety with Traffix Devices

    March 24, 2022

    Kurt Moreland reports live from the American Traffic Safety Services Association show where he talks all about utility traffic safety solutions with representatives from Traffix Devices. From cones and attenuators to barrels and flashing devices, you’ll learn about tools that can help your team stay safer on the roads. And, the Traffix Devices team even shares an amusing celebrity encounter story involving a famous Dallas quarterback.

    20 min. with Traffix Devices team


    Utility Safety Solutions: Ronan’s Innovative Battery-Powered Ascender Device

    January 26, 2022

    Join Kurt Moreland on the expo floor at the Tree Care Industry Expo where he talks about an innovative new safety product with Ronin Revolution Company CEO Bryan Bertrand. Learn about how Ronin’s battery-powered ascender device helps utility workers ascend towers and other structures with the ease of a automated hoist device.

    20 min. with Bryan Bertrand


    Utility Safety Solutions: Talking Safety with Terex Utilities

    January 18, 2022

    Incident Prevention magazine’s Associate Publisher Kurt Moreland stopped by the Terex Utilities newly expanded and state-of-the-art manufacturing facility to talk with Joe Caywood, the Director of Marketing for Terex Utilities. Joe talks about how Terex is focused on safety for its customers and for its own employees as well as some tails about mountain lion encounters.

    20 min. with Joe Caywood


    Utility Safety Solutions: Talking about FR Products & Apparel with NASCO

    December 2, 2021

    On a recent road trip, Incident Prevention magazine’s Associate Publisher Kurt Moreland stopped by the NASCO headquarters to talk FR shop with Andrew Wirts, the Sales & Marketing Director for NASCO. Andrew talks about how NASCO is working to make FR rainwear more comfortable, how they are improving safety for utility workers through better reflective trim placement and even a celebrity-encounter story with John Cougar Mellencamp.

    20 min. with Andrew Wirts


    Utility Safety Solutions: Celebrating JL Matthews‘ 75th Anniversary

    October 5, 2021

    In this special episode of Utility Safety Solutions, Kurt talks with Danny Matthews and Jennifer Matthews from JL Matthews to discuss their 75th Anniversary at their celebration event in Fort Worth, Texas.

    20 min. with Danny Matthews


    Utility Safety Solutions: An Innovative Hard Hat Illumination Device that Improves Visibility & Worker Visibility

    August 13, 2021

    When it comes to visibility at night, safety is impacted in two ways. Workers have to be able to clearly see what they are working on. And, workers need to be visible to others around them. That’s where the Halo SL comes in, a sleek—yet extremely bright—lamp that snaps right on to a safety helmet. Kurt Moreland sits down with Max Baker from ILLUMAGEAR to talk about the Halo SL and how it improves worksite safety!

    20 min. with Max Baker


    Utility Safety Solutions: A New Underground Cable Tool that Improves Ergonomics and Efficiency

    July 2, 2021

    We always love when we see lineworkers out in the field invent new products and solutions that make the job safer and more efficient! This is why Kurt Moreland invited to this episode of the podcast Ben Schwartz from Linehand’s Choice—a lineman who, along with his team, invented an excellent new tool that greatly increases the ergonomic safety and efficiency of working with underground cable.

    20 min. with Ben Schwartz


    Utility Safety Solutions: Talking About a New RFID Product and a Recent Acquisition

    May 27, 2021

    Kurt Moreland sits down with Jelco’s Kat Lea to discuss an exciting new radio-frequency identification tag product — EZE Track — which will offer utilities the ability to track all of their products and product records, inspection logs and instruction manuals via cloud-based technology. Kurt and Kat also talk about Jelco’s acquisition of Elk River Inc.

    20 min. with Kat Lea


    Utility Safety Solutions: An On-Helmet Detector that Alerts Your Workers to Electrocution Hazards

    March 5, 2021

    The unique aspect about electricity that makes it so dangerous is that, by most accounts, it is not easily detected through one’s sense of sight or sound. In this episode, we sit down with lineman trainer Brady Hansen of Safeguard Equipment, who tells us about an innovative utility safety product designed to act as a “sixth sense” for workers by providing an on-helmet audio/visual alert system for voltage and current detection.

    20 min. with Brady Hansen


    Utility Safety Solutions: An Innovative New Tool that Removes the Danger of Cutting Underground Primary Cables

    February 23, 2021

    We caught up with Ryan Berg from Greenlee to learn about their innovative remote cutter tool that puts the worker at a safe distance when cutting primary underground cables. Ryan tells all about the safety aspects of the cutter and many of the other safety initiatives happening at Greenlee–and he’ll even share a tale about his celebrity encounter with a member of popular rock band, Cheap Trick!

    20 min. with Ryan Berg


    Utility Safety Solutions: Cold Weather Strategies with Ty Fenton from Safety One Training

    January 29, 2021

    Cold weather is dangerous. Being prepared for extreme weather is vital for utility workers who must endure harshly cold weather. We caught up with Ty Fenton from Safety One Training to get some important insights and strategies on how you can make sure your workers are ready for the conditions.

    Utility Safety Solutions is a podcast that provides utility safety and ops professionals with an in-depth look at innovative products, services and strategies that help reduce incidents and increase safety success. Incident Prevention Associate Publisher Kurt Moreland looks for the most exciting and timely solutions happening in the industry right now and sits down to talk with the folks who bring those products to you. Utility Safety Solutions is published by the team at Incident Prevention magazine. Learn more at incident-prevention.com/podcasts.

    20 min. with Ty Fenton


    Utility Safety in Depth Podcasts


    From the Olympics to the Utility Field: Dr. Kevin Rindal, DC on Preventing Soft Tissue Injuries

    In this episode of the Incident Prevention Utility Safety Podcast, Kate Wade interviews Dr. Kevin Rindal, DC, chiropractor, human performance expert, and co-founder of Vimocity. Drawing from his extensive experience with the U.S. Olympic Swim Team and industrial athletes, Dr. Rindal shares insights on preventing soft tissue injuries, implementing dynamic warmup programs, and securing organizational buy-in for holistic well-being strategies. Learn how utilities can leverage sports medicine principles to enhance safety, reduce costs, and improve workers’ quality of life.

    Key Takeaways

    1. Industrial Athletes and Soft Tissue Injuries: How utility workers face similar physical demands to athletes and the role of dynamic preparation in reducing injury rates.
    2. Proactive vs. Reactive Approaches: The importance of addressing leading indicators like pain to prevent more significant injuries or reliance on opioids and other pain mitigations.
    3. Integration with Daily Routines: Methods to seamlessly incorporate warmups, muscle maintenance, and recovery into existing workflows, making it scalable for smaller organizations.
    4. Leveraging Technology and Gamification: How apps, micro learning, and team challenges foster engagement and create sustainable safety habits.
    5. Leadership and Culture: The critical role of leadership buy-in at all levels in making safety and well-being programs successful.

    Connect with Kevin:

    Resource Links:

    • Short form job-task specific training video | LINK
    • Dynamic/ Full-body movement routine (5 min or less) | LINK
    • Avoid Slips, Trips and Falls video | LINK

    You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

    Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

    Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

    #UtilitySafety #IndustrialAthletes #InjuryPrevention #Vimocity #WorkplaceWellbeing #DynamicWarmups

    Utility Safety In Depth: The 100th Monkey Effect and Human Connection in Safety – Doug Hill, CUSP & Bill Martin, CUSP

    In this episode of Utility Safety In Depth, we delve into the fascinating concept of the 100th monkey effect and its implications for safety in the utility industry. Join us as we discuss how collective consciousness and human connection can drive significant improvements in safety culture and outcomes. We’ll explore practical strategies to foster a more caring and supportive work environment, emphasizing the importance of communication, empathy, and mutual respect. Discover how embracing the power of human connection can lead to a safer and more resilient workforce.

    Key Takeaways:

    • The 100th Monkey Effect: How collective consciousness can influence individual behavior.
    • The importance of human connection in safety culture.
    • Practical strategies to foster a more caring and supportive work environment.
    • The power of communication, empathy, and mutual respect.
    • The role of leadership in creating a positive safety culture.

    #utilitiesafety #safetyculture #humanconnection #100thmonkeyeffect #workplacewellbeing #safetyleadership #utilityindustry

    You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

    Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

    Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

    Special Series – Influencing Safety Pt. 9 – Beyond the Buzzwords – Creating a Culture of Safety

    Are you tired of hearing the same safety jargon without seeing real change? Join Bill Martin, President and CEO of think Tank Project, LLC, and Kate Wade, Editor of Incident Prevention magazine, as they dive deep into the root causes of workplace injuries and fatalities. Discover how to move beyond motivation and empty slogans to create a truly safe and connected work environment.

    Key Takeaways from this podcast:

    • Importance of Synchronization: The way forward in safety management involves creating a synchronized workforce where everyone is connected on a deeper level. Synchronization allows for better communication and understanding, reducing the chances of injuries and accidents.
    • Action Over Motivation: Motivational speeches and slogans alone are insufficient to bring about real change in workplace safety. There needs to be actionable steps that translate motivation into tangible improvements on the ground.
    • Understanding Human Behavior: The podcast emphasizes that much of human behavior is automatic, driven by the brain’s need to conserve energy. Safety programs should account for this by focusing on changing automatic behaviors rather than expecting constant vigilance.
    • The Role of Leadership: Effective leadership is about asking the right questions and involving workers in safety decisions. Leaders should model the behavior they want to see and create environments that encourage participation and ownership of safety practices.
    • Continuous Learning and Experimentation: The podcast suggests that safety improvements should be approached as ongoing experiments, where teams try out new ideas, evaluate their effectiveness, and adjust accordingly.
    • Dealing with Resistance: Resistance to change is natural, especially in large organizations with many layers. The podcast highlights the importance of addressing this resistance by aligning everyone around common goals and encouraging openness to new ideas.
    • Mental and Emotional Health: Addressing mental health issues, such as addiction and depression, is crucial for creating a safe work environment. A connected and supportive team can help identify and mitigate these risks.
    • Practical Applications: The podcast concludes with a call to action—what small, tangible change can be implemented on Monday to make the workplace safer? It’s about translating ideas into real-world actions that have a measurable impact.

    #safetyculture #workplaceinjury #safetymanagement #safetyleadership #industrialaccidents #safetytraining #safetytips #safetypodcast #accidentprevention #riskmanagement

    You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

    Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

    Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

    Supporting Safety Professionals: A Conversation with Scott Francis, Technical Sales Manager, Westex, a Milliken Brand

    Welcome to Incident Prevention’s Utility Safety Podcast, hosted by Kate Wade, editor of Incident Prevention magazine. In this episode, Kate sits down with Scott Francis, the technical sales manager for Westex, a Milliken brand renowned for pioneering protective textiles since 1941. Scott brings decades of experience in the safety industry, especially in the flame-resistant and arc-rated clothing markets.

    During this insightful discussion, Scott shares his expertise on the latest advancements in flame-resistant and arc-rated apparel, the importance of live demonstrations, and how Westex is leading the way in educating safety professionals. He also touches on the challenges of balancing cost and safety standards, and the critical role of comfort in ensuring protective clothing is worn consistently.

    Whether you’re a safety manager looking to enhance your PPE program or simply interested in the latest trends in utility safety apparel, this episode is packed with valuable information.

    Key Takeaways:

    1. Impact of Live Demonstrations: Live flash fire and arc flash events leave a lasting impression, helping safety professionals understand the severity of thermal hazards.
    2. Survivor Stories: Hearing from thermal exposure survivors like Brad Livingston emphasizes the real-life consequences of not wearing proper PPE.
    3. Education and Training: Westex offers extensive educational resources, including webinars, regional safety conferences, and online materials to keep safety managers informed.
    4. Balancing Cost and Safety: The competitive landscape in flame-resistant fabric manufacturing drives innovation and helps maintain affordable prices without compromising safety.
    5. Comfort Equals Protection: Comfortable PPE is more likely to be worn consistently, directly impacting worker safety.

    #UtilitySafety #FlameResistantClothing #ArcRatedApparel #PPE #WorkplaceSafety #SafetyPodcast #IncidentPrevention

    You can read the current magazine at Incident Prevention Magazine.

    Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

    Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/


    Utility Safety in Depth – Special Series – Influencing Safety with Bill Martin, CUSP
    Pt. 8 – Live from the iP Utility Safety Conference

    June 6, 2024

    In the eighth episode of this multipart podcast series, Bill Martin, CUSP, president and CEO of Think Tank Project LLC (www.thinkprojectllc.com), and host Kate Wade discuss a host of topics and what they are seeing in the safety world, and how to change it!

    This podcast discusses safety in the utility industry.

    Here are the key points: Safety conferences are not leading to a decrease in accidents. Bill Martin, a safety consultant, argues that the safety information is not being translated into actionable steps for workers. Focus on worker-centered safety. Instead of top-down safety initiatives, Bill Martin proposes a worker-centered approach where workers are involved in creating and implementing safety measures. The current safety approach might not consider human biology. Bill Martin argues that safety messages need to consider how the human brain reacts to stimuli in order to be effective. We need to connect with workers on a human level. Bill Martin emphasizes the importance of building relationships and trust with workers to create a safer work environment. Younger generations may hold the key to safety improvements. Bill Martin believes younger generations have the potential to improve safety practices if they are taught how to connect and be curious.

    Listen to the other 7 parts of this special series with Bill Martin, CUSP.

    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Bill at influenceteamdynamics@gmail.com and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

    Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

    30 min. with Bill Martin, CUSP


    Utility Safety in Depth – Five Core Capacities for Sustainable Safety Excellence – Shawn Galloway

    May 3, 2024

    In this episode, iP’s Kate Wade sits down with Shawn Galloway to dig into his recent iP article, “Five Core Capacities for Sustainable Safety Excellence.” Shawn is the CEO of ProAct Safety – which was founded in 1993 with the sole purpose of helping organizations achieve and sustain safety excellence – and author of several bestselling books, including his latest, “Bridge to Excellence: Building Capacity for Sustainable Performance.” Feel free to reach out to Shawn for further discussion at info@proactsafety.com.

    Read the Article – https://incident-prevention.com/blog/five-core-capacities-for-sustainable-safety-excellence/

    Subscribe to Incident Prevention Magazine – https://incident-prevention.com/subscribe-now/

    Register for the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo – https://utilitysafetyconference.com/

    39 min. with Shawn Galloway


    Utility Safety in Depth – An Experiment in Crew Engagement with Bill Martin, CUSP & Cheryl Richardson

    April 23, 2024

    In this episode, iP’s Kate Wade sits down with Cheryl Richardson, president of New York-based contractor H. Richardson & Sons, and Bill Martin, president and CEO of Think Tank Project LLC, to discuss a new safety initiative they have introduced at H. Richardson. Learn more about the implementation of this project, the impact it’s making thus far, and where it’s going in the future. Cheryl and Bill will be speaking on this topic next month at the iP Utility Safety Conference & Expo in Orlando, Florida, and also be sure to check out Cheryl’s article in the April-May 2024 issue of iP, available at https://incident-prevention.com/blog/an-experiment-in-crew-member-engagement/.

    Actionable Safety Podcast – https://utilitysafety.podbean.com/e/utility-safety-in-depth-talking-actionable-safety-with-bill-martin/ 

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    38 min. with Bill Martin, CUSP & Cheryl Richardson


    Utility Safety in Depth – ESG: Health and Safety Obstacle or Opportunity? – John Fischer, Duke Energy

    March 6, 2024

    The podcast highlights the growing influence of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) factors in the utility sector. ESG goes beyond just financial performance, considering a company’s environmental impact, social responsibility, and ethical practices. Investors are increasingly evaluating companies through this lens, pressuring utilities to focus on sustainability, worker safety, and good governance. Interestingly, safety practices themselves align well with ESG goals. This means safety professionals have an opportunity to leverage ESG to advocate for better resources, promote sustainable safety programs, and demonstrate the value of safety in the bigger picture of ESG. By understanding this connection, safety professionals can play a key role in shaping a more sustainable and responsible future for the utility industry.

    Read the article here – https://incident-prevention.com/blog/esg-health-and-safety-obstacle-or-opportunity/

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    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Bill at influenceteamdynamics@gmail.com and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    32 min. with John Fischer, CUSP


    Special Series – Influencing Safety, Part 7, with Bill Martin, CUSP

    January 23, 2024

    Listen to Bill Martin, CUSP as he discusses some of the lessons we can take in the utility industry from some of his recent readings. Kate and Bill dive into a host of issues as we continue this great series of influencing safety!

    1. Viskontas, I. (2017). Brain Myths Exploded. 
    2. Cialdini, R. (2021). Influence, New and Expanded: The Psychology of Persuasion.
    3. Sharot, T. (2017). The Influential Mind: What Our Brain Reveals About Our Power to Influence Others.
    4. Bohns, V. (2021). You Have More Influence Than You Think.
    5. Kahneman, D. (2011). Thinking, Fast and Slow.
    6. Gawande, A. (2009). The Checklist Manifesto.
    7. Gonzales, L. (1998). Deep Survival: Who Lives, Who Dies, and Why.
    8. De Becker, G. (2021). Survival Signals That Protect Us From Violence (Special Release Edition).
    9. Klein, G. (2013). Seeing What Others Don’t: The Remarkable Way We Gain Insights.
    10. Bargh, J. (2017). Before You Know It: The Unconscious Reasons We Do What We Do.
    11. Paul, A. M. (2021). The Extended Mind: The Power of Thinking Outside the Brain.
    12. Barrett, L. F. (2020). 7 ½ Lessons on the Brain.
    13. Clark, A. (2023). The Experience Machine: How Our Minds Predict and Shape Reality.

    Listen to the other 6 parts of this special series with Bill Martin, CUSP.

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    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Bill at influenceteamdynamics@gmail.com and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    55 min. with Bill Martin, CUSP


    Special Series – Influencing Safety, Part 6, with Bill Martin, CUSP

    November 22, 2023

    In the sixth episode of this multipart podcast series, Bill Martin, CUSP, president and CEO of Think Tank Project LLC (www.thinkprojectllc.com), and host Kate Wade discuss some myths of safety live from the iP Utility Safety Conference in San Diego, CA.

    Listen to the other 5 parts of this special series with Bill Martin, CUSP.

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    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Bill at influenceteamdynamics@gmail.com and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    41 min. with Bill Martin, CUSP


    Utility Safety in Depth – Harnessing AI with Barry Nelson, the President & CEO of FactorLab

    October 24, 2023

    Read the article here: https://incident-prevention.com/blog/harnessing-ai-crafting-the-future-of-safety-professionals/

    Dive deeper into this article written by BARRY NELSON from FactorLab. Artificial intelligence (AI) has the potential to revolutionize the way safety professionals approach their work. In this article, Barry Nelson, president and CEO of FactorLab, discusses how AI can be used to create a future where work-related risks are minimized, productivity is maximized, and workplaces become more secure and efficient.

    One of the most promising applications of AI in safety is in the area of data analytics. AI can be used to analyze large amounts of data from a variety of sources, including safety reports, incident investigations, and employee surveys. This data can then be used to identify patterns and trends that may not be visible to the human eye.

    For example, AI can be used to identify specific jobs, tasks, or locations that are associated with a higher risk of accidents. This information can then be used to develop targeted interventions to reduce those risks.

    AI can also be used to develop predictive maintenance programs. By analyzing data on equipment performance, AI can identify potential problems before they occur. This can help to prevent equipment failures that could lead to accidents.

    In addition to data analytics, AI can also be used to develop new safety training programs. AI-powered training programs can be personalized to the individual needs of each employee. They can also be used to provide real-time feedback and support.

    Nelson argues that AI is not a replacement for safety professionals. Instead, he sees AI as a tool that can help safety professionals do their jobs more effectively and efficiently. AI can help safety professionals to identify risks, develop interventions, and train employees.

    In conclusion, AI has the potential to transform the way safety professionals approach their work. By harnessing the power of AI, safety professionals can create a future where work-related risks are minimized, productivity is maximized, and workplaces become more secure and efficient.

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    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    37 min. with Barry Nelson


    Utility Safety In Depth – Strengthening The Substation Fence – Jim Willis MSc, CMAS, CHS1

    June 23, 2023

    Listen to Kate Wade interview special guest Jim Willis, MSc, CMAS, CHS1. He is author of the article “Strengthening The Substation Fence” in the most recent June – July issue of Incident Prevention magazine.

    People have finally discovered one of the best unkept secrets in America: Our utility systems can be attacked, and it doesn’t take military tacticians to pull it off, fInd out more from the article and this podcast as we take a deeper dive into this!

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    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Jim at jim.willis@indevtactical.net and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    19 min. with Jim Ellis


    Special Series – Influencing Safety, Part 5, with Bill Martin, CUSP

    May 30, 2023

    In the fifth episode of this multipart podcast series, Bill Martin, CUSP, president and CEO of of Think Tank Project LLC (www.thinkprojectllc.com), and host Kate Wade discuss how leaders influence their workers like where we are getting it right and where there is room for improvement.

    Listen to the other 4 parts of this special series with Bill Martin, CUSP.

    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Bill at influenceteamdynamics@gmail.com and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    49 min. with Bill Martin, CUSP


    Utility Safety in Depth – Josh Moody – Westex: A Milliken Brand – ”3 Sustainability Considerations When Evaluating FR/AR Apparel”

    March 22, 2023

    Listen to Kate Wade interview special guest Josh Moody, Director of Product Management | Westex: A Milliken Brand who is author of the article “3 Sustainability Considerations When Evaluating FR/AR Apparel” in the most recent February – March issue of Incident Prevention magazine.

    Article: Link

    Website: www.westex.com LinkedIn: Westex FR Showcase

    42 min. with Josh Moody


    Special Series – Influencing Safety, Part 4, with Bill Martin, CUSP

    February 16, 2023

    In the fourth episode of this multipart podcast series, Bill Martin, CUSP, president and CEO of (www.thinkprojectllc.com), and host Kate Wade discuss learned helplessness – what it is, what causes it, and how to break out of the habit.

    Listen to the other 3 parts of this special series with Bill Martin, CUSP.

    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Bill at influenceteamdynamics@gmail.com and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    42 min. with Bill Martin, CUSP


    Special Series – Influencing Safety, Part 3, with Bill Martin, CUSP

    November 25, 2022

    In the third episode of this multipart podcast series, Bill Martin, CUSP, president and CEO of (www.thinkprojectllc.com), and host Kate Wade discuss emotional intelligence – what it is, why it’s so critical to line crew safety and why it should be considered a strength and not a weakness.

    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Bill at influenceteamdynamics@gmail.com and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    52 min. with Bill Martin, CUSP


    Utility Safety in Depth – Advancing Workforce Skills Using Simulation-Based Training

    October 20, 2022

    CM Labs’ Christa Fairchild and Alan Limoges sit down with host Kate Wade to discuss how equipment simulators can improve efficiencies in worker training, enhance safety, save costs, benefit trainers and more. This interview is based on the article Fairchild wrote for the October-November 2022 issue of Incident Prevention magazine. As a note to listeners, CM Labs will be presenting a session — titled “Training for the Worksite of Tomorrow” — at bauma Forum October 24 beginning at 4 p.m. The company will also be exhibiting in the show’s Canadian Pavilion. Read the article here: https://online.incident-prevention.com/publication/?m=19389&i=763067&p=34&ver=html5

    28 min. with CM Labs’ Christa Fairchild and Alan Limoges


    Special Series – Influencing Safety, Part 2, with Bill Martin, CUSP

    September 12, 2022

    In the second episode of this multipart podcast series, Bill Martin, CUSP, president and CEO of Think Tank Project LLC (www.thinkprojectllc.com), and host Kate Wade discuss psychological safety – what it is, why it’s so critical to line crew safety and tactics you can use to create it in a crew environment.

    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Bill at influenceteamdynamics@gmail.com and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    38 min. with Bill Martin, CUSP


    Using a Learning Management System to Augment Lineworker Training with Kenneth Pardue

    September 6, 2022

    Host Kate Wade welcomes Kenneth Pardue to take a deeper dive into the article that Kenneth wrote for the August/September 2022 issue of Incident Prevention, titled “Using a Learning Management System to Augment Lineworker Training.” In this episode, the two discuss what a learning management system is and how it can be useful in training both apprentices and seasoned journeymen. View the article here: link

    18 min. with Kenneth Pardue


    Special Series – Influencing Safety with Bill Martin, CUSP

    August 3, 2022

    In the first episode of this new multipart podcast series, safety consultant Bill Martin, CUSP and host Kate Wade begin with the basics, discussing what influence is, why Martin is so passionate about the topic plus some practical ways to positively influence safety in the workplace.

    To share feedback about this podcast, reach Bill at influenceteamdynamics@gmail.com and Kate at kwade@utilitybusinessmedia.com.

    20 min. with Bill Martin, CUSP


    Talking Heat Illness & Injury Prevention with Mike Starner

    May 9, 2022

    Utility Safety In Depth host Kate Wade welcomes Mike Starner, CUSP, to take a deeper dive into the article Starner wrote for the April/May 2022 issue of Incident Prevention, titled “Heat Injury and Illness Prevention: Past, Present and Future.” In this episode, the two discuss the impact of climate change on worker safety, OSHA’s proposed rulemaking for heat injury and illness prevention, and more.

    20 min. with Mike Starner from National Electrical Contractors Association


    Utility Safety in Depth: Discussing Actionable Safety with Bill Martin

    April 21, 2022

    Host Kate Wade welcomes Bill Martin to take a deeper dive into the article that Martin wrote for the December 2021/January 2022 issue of Incident Prevention titled “Actionable Safety: Modeling Change for Line Crews.” In this episode, the two will discuss stop-work authority, training to prevent incidents, recognizing red flag words, what leaders should be modeling to improve safety and more.

    51 min. with Bill Martin of Northline Utilities.


    Utility Safety in Depth: Managing Risk Through Cognitive Impairment Testing

    November 8, 2021

    Often, when the term “cognitive impairment” comes up, most people immediately think about drug or alcohol impairment. And while that is an issue, there are many other things that can impair one’s mental clarity and, in turn, the safety of the job. In this episode, Kate Wade talks to Lee Marchessault of Workplace Safety Solutions and Jeff Sease of Predictive Safety SRP about the different types of cognitive impairments that can impact safety and what can be done to bring awareness to and reduce those impairment issues.

    20 min. with Lee Marchessault of Workplace Safety Solutions and Jeff Sease of Predictive Safety SRP


    Utility Safety In Depth: What Utilities & Contractors Need to Know About UTV & ATV Safety

    May 27, 2021

    Utility task vehicles (UTVs) and all-terrain vehicles (ATVs) are becoming increasingly popular transportation options for lineworkers who need to traverse difficult terrain to access work sites. In this episode, Kate Wade talks to Ty Fenton of Safety One Training about what utility and contractor organizations should consider when purchasing, training on and using these vehicles.

    20 min. with Ty Fenton


    Utility Safety In Depth: Understanding Complacency & How to Overcome It

    April 21, 2021

    What is the true cause of complacency? How can developing new habits reduce incidents? What is it about our brains that makes us want to take shortcuts? Sharon Lipinski, CEO of Habit Mastery Consulting, will answer these questions and more as she sits down with Incident Prevention magazine’s editor Kate Wade to discuss the biological basis of complacency.

    20 min. with Sharon Lipinski


    Utility Safety In Depth: Fire Extinguisher Safety Strategies

    March 2, 2021

    Are your utility workers properly equipped and trained to safely respond to vehicle fires? Fire safety expert Steve Nash will help you uncover the answer to this question and others as he sits down with Incident Prevention magazine’s editor Kate Wade to discuss what your crews need to do to protect themselves and save others.

    20 min. with Steve Nash


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